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Laszlo Bock, Google · 2013 to 2015

How Many Golf Balls

Google checked tens of thousands of its interviews against how the people it hired went on to do. In 2013 its head of people operations told the New York Times what they found: "zero relationship," with one exception.

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How many golf balls can you fit into an airplane? How many gas stations are there in Manhattan?

In June 2013, Laszlo Bock, Google’s senior vice president of people operations, recited both questions to Adam Bryant of the New York Times, then gave his verdict. “A complete waste of time. They don’t predict anything. They serve primarily to make the interviewer feel smart.”

He had numbers behind the insult. Years earlier, Bock said, Google had set out to learn whether anyone at the company was particularly good at hiring. It looked at tens of thousands of interviews: who had conducted each one, the score they gave the candidate, and how that person ultimately performed in the job.

“We found zero relationship,” he told Bryant. “It’s a complete random mess.” The one exception was a single interviewer who only saw candidates for a very specialized area, in which, Bock said, he happened to be the world’s leading expert.

What worked better, by Bock’s account, was much plainer: “structured behavioral interviews, where you have a consistent rubric for how you assess people, rather than having each interviewer just make stuff up.” Ask a candidate for an example of a time they solved an analytically difficult problem, then drill into it. You see how they acted in a real situation, he said, and you learn what they consider difficult.

Two years later Bock wrote the same argument into his book, Work Rules!, and added a confession. In an excerpt Wired published in April 2015, he grouped consulting-style case questions with the brainteasers, “most annoyingly, ‘How many golf balls would fit inside a 747?’” Then: “Full disclosure: I’m the Senior Vice President of People Operations at Google, and some of these interview questions have been and I’m sure continue to be used at the company. Sorry about that.”

The replacement looked dull on the page. Bock printed sample questions such as “Tell me about a time your behavior had a positive impact on your team,” each with set follow-ups. One early reader of the draft told him they were “so generic it’s a little disappointing.” Bock’s reply was that the questions are bland and the answers are not: asked the same thing, superb candidates bring much better examples. Then came the rubric. In Google’s version for general cognitive ability, every performance level was clearly defined, and the interviewer had to write down exactly how the candidate had shown it, so later reviewers could make their own assessment.

Google still describes the method in its re:Work hiring guides, with rubrics that spell out what a poor, borderline, solid and outstanding answer would cover.

As for the golf balls, Bock wrote that Google did everything it could to discourage those questions. When senior leaders, himself included, reviewed applicants each week, “we ignore the answers to these questions.”

What this story shows

Structured InterviewBy Bock's account, Google found no relationship between interviewers' scores and how hires later performed, and he credited structured behavioral interviews with "a consistent rubric" instead. Brainteasers, he said, were "a complete waste of time."

Sources

  1. Adam Bryant, In Head-Hunting, Big Data May Not Be Such a Big Deal (interview with Laszlo Bock), The New York Times, June 20, 2013 (read in a Wayback Machine copy; the live page is paywalled)
  2. Laszlo Bock, Here's Google's Secret to Hiring the Best People, Wired, April 7, 2015 (excerpt from Work Rules!; read in a Wayback Machine copy; the live page is paywalled)
  3. Laszlo Bock, Work Rules! Insights from Inside Google That Will Transform How You Live and Lead, Twelve, 2015
  4. Google re:Work, A guide to structured interviewing for better hiring practices (read October 2026)